The verse in question is describing Satan. Come to your point. Are you one of these heretics who wants to enlighten the world about the hidden truth that, in fact (!), the God of the Old Testament is an evil bully and not really God at all?

Don’t try to play the Socratic dialogue game with me. Say what you mean and have done with it.

You alluded to what that truth means (Jesus has the Father as God, pre and post ascension) in your very first post, that Jesus is telling us He is not God (He has a God), and that point of His is crystal clear when one applies what He says about His God in John 17:3. Do you think Got Questions left that *critical truth* out (Jesus has the Father as His God) in their commentary on John 17:3, because that is what false teachers do, they suppress/conceal/hide truths as it says in Rom. 1:18. The body of Christ will have the exact same God as the head does (the Father) which is precisely as Jesus tells us in John 20:17.

You need to study the Trinity more. Try reading the chapter about it in John Frame’s Systematic Theology.

You think it simply follows from the fact that Jesus says the Father is his God that he is not also God himself. But this does not follow. Outside of the context of the Bible, this might well appear to follow quite obviously. But inside the Bible, matters are not so obvious.

Throughout the OT, God is referred to allusively, and similarly, he makes appearances in various forms. There are several instances in which the Angel of the Lord says something, and then, the next sentence, without skipping a beat, the text says the Lord (himself) does, or says, something. But nothing other than the word indicates a shift in characters. Evidently, the “messenger“ is being identified with God himself.

You cannot take texts and isolation and expect to build a coherent theory of what the Bible says. So, in addition to the text you found…

Replying to @terry@sangerfeed.org @lsanger@sangerfeed.org

… you should study the many prophetic texts that strongly suggest that the Messiah would be God incarnate. But that’s just for starters. You should also consider Jesus’ self-description as “son of man” and its prophetic origin. He should consider why he was crucified. You should consider the several texts in which his apostles explicitly call him God or the creator. Finally, and this is really not the end of the list because it does go on, you might consider Jesus’ declaration, “I and my Father are one.”

If you’re studying the Bible with adequate care, such things would be more obvious to you, as they are to Christian scholars.

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